Does anyone really care?

Over the year or so that RotaryBlogger.co.uk has been in existence, despite what many may think it has tried to play the role of ‘critical friend‘ to the organisation by way of getting Regular Rots thinking as well as challenging and testing the leadership on the policies, procedures and practices taking place as part of Rotary International’s day-to-day operation.

And although each individual blog gets a reassuringly high number of hits within the first few hours of release I have often wondered if anyone really cares what’s actually going on at the higher end operations and affairs of the organisation.

Do Regular Rots have that much interest in the organisation beyond that of their own Club and their own circle of Rotary friends?

Sure, there will be a proportion of individuals within each Club who are interested in serving on District (and do) – but that proportion is substantially reduced when it comes to serving at a national RotaryGBI level. And don’t even look at the percentile of Club members involved on a worldwide basis.

There are of course those we refer to in this blog as the ‘Career Rotarians‘ out there. The ones who have their eyes well and truly fixed on getting to the upper echelons on the organisation regardless of how they need to do it. Thankfully these Career Rots are in the minority as they do nothing to help anyone other than themselves. That said, to be fair to them unlike many of their fellow Club members they actually are willing to put their heads above the parapet where others’ wouldn’t.

But bringing the light back to Regular Rots – do they really care about RotaryGBI or even Rotary International in Evanston, USA?

The recent series of blogs on the RotaryGBI Presidential Campaign attracted some of the highest readership of any blogs in the shortest time since RotaryBlogger.co.uk started – but at the end of the day, the result was no different from that promoted and ultimately desired by the Selection Advisory Committee.

Credit-where-credit-is-due, Amanda Watkin as General Secretary and Peter Davey as this year’s President in Great Britain and Ireland who have definitely tried to listen to feedback from those making their voices heard through the various platforms available (including through this blog).

An example of the ‘listening organisation’ was the video uploads of the talking-head Presidential candidate videos during the recent campaign. Undoubtedly a great step forward in the right direction and massively better than the previously tedious and boring task of wading through candidates CVs as if interviewing for a senior position in your multi-national organisation.

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How many Regular Rots actually know the names of the Rotary International or RotaryGBI Presidents?

But again, how many Regular Rots actually viewed those videos far less read the CVs (one of which was over 15 pages long!) in order to take a view on who may eventually be in charge or the overall organisation and how it was being run. How many actually care who is going to be their President?

We’ve previously discussed on this blog the matter of District Governor visits – and how many sitting Club Presidents effectively bribe and corrupt their members by any means to “please turn up next week” due to the imminent DG drop-in on the Club. Practically on hands and knees in some case to prevent what could otherwise be an embarrassingly low turnout to hear the District boss.

Yes, I may be taking my usual RotaryBlogger artistic licence to some extent – but in actuality for Clubs it’s not that far removed from the truth. So surely this anecdotally demonstrates the level of interest at Club level into the administration of the organisation by the Regular Rot.

The world has changed even in the last 25 years. Status is less important anymore. Being the local solicitor, doctor or police inspector isn’t actually that impressive in today’s society.

Ironically for Rotary, what appears far more important nowadays is what difference you are making to your local society and what you are giving back. But now it’s about how much you challenge what’s going in your community and are willing to do something about it if it’s deemed not fall into the socially accepted norms.

Doesn’t Rotary sit perfectly in that fit?

So what’s the problem? Well the answer to that question is that the organisation still seems to be hung up on hierarchy, position, status, top-tables, cap-doffing, regalia and ultimately snobbery. Not to mention the other processes and procedures associated with membership organisations of past generations.

And this could be why more and more people are turning off having any interest in how the organisation is run; focusing more on their own Club and what they an do in their own community.

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I was recently speaking with a serving District where we discussed some of the challenges the organisation was currently facing and trying to address. He so succinctly put it thus:

It is easier to give birth than raise the dead.”

This is the same District Governor who has taken the view that he is available to speak to Clubs in his District – but if they don’t invite him or ultimately want him, he’s not going to foist himself upon the Club in the way most of his predecessors have. I think he should be applauded for taking a position that recognises not all Clubs are interested in the affairs of District and is encouraging existing Clubs to support and assist the development of the ‘new generation‘ Clubs.

I’ve been informed that these newer Clubs are consistently asking the ‘why?’ question? But they aren’t necessarily waiting on the answers – they are just going off and doing things individually and differently…

  • Why are we toasting Her Majesty the Queen?
  • Why are we saying grace if we are non-Religious organisation?
  • Why are do we have to eat lunch/dinner before our meetings?
  • Why are we meeting in the local hotel?
  • Why do we have to have a formal night to meet?
  • Why are we ‘fining’ members under the guise of raising charity funds?
  • Why are we no longer about business networking?

These new Clubs are not toasting anyone – not even Rotary (shock horror). They understand that Great Britain and Ireland is now a multi-culture/multi-faith country and therefore don’t bring any religion into their meetings at all. They are meeting in their local Costa Coffee or their local pub – thus accommodating the new ‘coffee shop generation’ or the people who only have time to stop in for ‘a pint’ after work instead of committing to a full sit-down meal.

Question…How does the District Governor or RotaryGBI President ‘address’ the Regular Rots in Costa Coffee? Well, I’m guessing they don’t! I’m pretty damn sure the reputations of the Regular Rots using the local coffee shop for their meeting is such that they would point blank refuse to be ‘addressed’ while getting tucked into their medium, skinny-gingerbread cappuccino. I certainly know I would!

So while some may see it as a thin end of the wedge – others like me see it as the start of the next generation of Rotary. Done in a new way. Oh, and all this is over and above the new ways in which eClubs are now starting to embed themselves into the organisation by way of being increasingly viewed as real clubs by other non-eClub Regular Rots.

So in reply to my own question posed at the start of this blog – the more I speak to people; the more I listen to many established as well as new Rotarians; the more I read in social media platforms; the more I see of the affairs of the organisation…the more I begin to think that the current bastion of suits, ties and chains who are clinging to the decks of the Good Ship RIBI the more I feel they could very well be the last.

This isn’t so much because there will be any grant-master-plan revolution to overthrow them or torpedo the ship – but on a much more basic level – Regular Rots really aren’t that fussed about how the organisation is being run as long as they are doing good work in their local and international communities and that the subs don’t begin to get ridiculously high.

Therefore the final question posed on this Easter Blog…If the very vast majority of Regular Rots don’t really care about the ivory towers of Rotary then is that necessarily a bad thing?

 

Images in order of appearance by Daikreig el Jevi and Tom Hodgkinson by CC

28 thoughts on “Does anyone really care?

  1. adrian says:

    I see what you saying but I see so many posts from various quarters of ‘senior’ rots attending dinners, charter nights, even ladies nights (still) sometimes 5 times a week all dressed up to the nines……I wonder how they manage to even stand up with all the food and drink they must consume plus who writes all those patronising speeches telling each other how well they have done and the backs must be sore from the patting and self fladulation…..I like a bit of pomp, ceremony and tradition but……………….I am speechless sometimes…thankful am I for the brilliant people, Rotarians or not, who give their time and effort to their communities, home and abroad. The idea of a group of like minded people working for a common goal is laudable and for the most part that is what we are…..long many it continue and evolve into an organisation that still cares for the less able and the disadvantaged. How many of us have wanted to walk away for numerous reasons? What keeps us? Hope that things will change, not overnight but in the fullness of time….Rotary Rocks! Rotarians serving Humanity the new ‘motto’ from John Germ. We should adopt that on-going….it is catchy and moreover The Truth.

    1. Great points, well made as ever Adrian. I think you have hit on something (maybe even a future blogpost if you don’t mind) as to why so many of us have considered throwing the towel in and don’t. We hang in there because we truly believe in the organisation to which we are members. Like you, I love a bit of pomp and ceremony every now and then, but living in a bow-tie and dinner suit for a year…really? But a group of like minded individuals working for good – now there’s a novel idea.

  2. David Hatcher says:

    To answer your last question – no I don’t think it’s a bad thing that the majority of Rotarians don’t care about the ‘ivory towers’ of Rotary. Indeed, I for one am incensed at the cost of maintaining elements like Foundation where millions of $’s are spent in administration and sustaining the value of the organisation. The financial managers (like lawyers in the justice system) are the real winners and somehow for the privilege of organising the charity money, we are paying big bucks, when at Club level the maintenance of smaller such funds (but possibly a collectively greater sum overall), are borne by volunteer hours.
    For years I have suggested to my own District that instead of perpetuating what they see as a ‘support role’ to Clubs, the district should be acting as a ‘regional club’, liaising and working with regional organisations and promoting rotary at that level instead of being ‘downward facing’ towards Clubs who in the main are entirely self sufficient and enjoying being independent. The same should be true of RIBI and RI at their respective levels. So far this appears to have fallen on deaf ears and probably perpetuates Rotary being one of the best kept secrets?

    1. I think a lot of people share your view in terms of where District and RotaryGBI should sit in the overall presentation and publicity of Rotary International. Is this another example of where tradition and ‘the way we’ve always done it’ gets in the way of change and progress? As you say David, the vast majority of Clubs are more than happy to basically just get on with it in their own local communities.

  3. David Ellis says:

    As one of the protagonists in the recent “election” I may have to be careful how this comes across. We have heard the Rotary in these islands is changing and there is a groundswell of support for this to happen sooner rather than later. However ere are a people who are clinging on to power in any way they can and their vicelike grip is slowly strangling our organisation. Your blog is spot on “Does anyone really care” , in truth the answer for the majority is, sadly, no. The turnout in the recent election proves that regular rots are not interested and that is due to the style of our organisation remaining, pretty much, unchanged over the past few years.
    I fear it will soon be too late to save Rotary GBI as we cling on to Chains, Regalia, Graces, Toasts, the traditions some hold dear are the very reason new people do not stay. When I mentioned giving sneak of these up at a recent PETS Seminar, some were beside themselves and said it would be the end of Rotary if a president discarded the chain. The international president doesn’t possess one….I rest my case.

    1. You will need to be careful David – we can’t possibly have people viewing your comments on this blog as the precursor to your next Presidential Election campaign?!?! Oh, hold on – wait a minute you’re effectively out of ‘purdah’ and can effectively campaign and canvas as much as you like at this point; put it down as ‘market research’ to see if you would be supported in throwing your hat into the ring on the next round. You could be the ‘Candidate for Change’…!

      Anyway, good points you make about the blog – from discussions I am having (albeit relatively small in number in comparison to the 50,000 members in these islands and therefore not claiming to be proportionate) there seems to be growing concern for the survival of RotaryGBI beyond the next 10 years as an individual and independent territory in the worldwide picture.

  4. Peter Davey says:

    Thanks for acknowledging that I have listened. I will continue to do so for the next three months after which I shall return to my club and certainly not “cling to power” as David suggests that some do – I’m not sure what power there is to cling to actually. Changes are being made and more will become apparent as their effect bites. Of course more are needed at all levels but there is work in progress and must continue. I agree that District and RIBI are there to support the work of clubs and that support will come in a number of different ways. We must evaluate what is done at these levels and react to those evaluations. We do need people to be interested though. Not people looking for a “career” (I have never understood that in the Rotary sense anyway as, to me, a career is what has to be worked at to pay the household bills) but those interested enough to give their time and skills to fill district and RIBI roles. It is just another way of giving Rotary service to undertake these jobs and to try your level best to make things better. It is easy to grumble that job holders aren’t doing well enough but far more valuable to get involved. We need good people with the skills to make Districts and RIBI as effective as possible. As for regalia etc I agree with what has been said – I wear the Presidential chain when I am asked to by my host but a lot of the time it stays in its case and any comments made then are usually positive.

    1. As ever, thanks for getting involved in the discussions Peter – and credit is only given because it is deserved. You said you would make things more transparent in the year you were President and I believe you have started that process. We can only hope that the pendulum doesn’t swing back as we have seen happen in previous years.

      You are correct that it is always easier to ‘grumble’ – some may argue that is what RotaryBlogger.co.uk does – but the point of the matter is that perhaps instead of trying to shoehorn people into the shoes that have been there for decades – we need to look at actually changing the shoes. And I believe you are one of the key office holders who gets that – ironically that is why it is kind of important you don’t just go back to your Club at the end of your tenure – but keep plugging for the changes you’ve already started and looking to properly evaluate what we are doing.

      I guess the analogy is – some people think that shiny 70’s pillar-box red analogue trim phone on their desk is still de rigueur not realising that everyone else is now walking about with an iPhone 9 in their hand…(which by the way was already out of date the moment they pulled it from its box)!

  5. says:

    Well, phew! For a start, to reassure you, I read your blog faithfully, but am very conscious as a relatively new member (just over six months, feels considerably longer) I’m still not aware of all the etiquette of Rotary. However, my platform is the Facebook page for the Portobello Rotary page (here’s the link if you’re at all interested: and though the aim is to present positive and cheerful messages, some of the important Rotary issues are considered, like women in Rotary or the role of talks. I’ve just come back from visiting an Amsterdam club where – almost to my shock – the President didn’t wear a heavy chain, didn’t sit at the top of the table, didn’t say grace, didn’t toast the head of state – and yet his club is far more active, far more friendly and the meals are far nicer (though far more expensive) than many of the ones I’ve encountered in the UK.

    Poking my head above the parapet for a moment, I’m willing to say that I totally disagree with the idea of a Christian grace before the meal; I object very violently to toasting the British Monarch and if I hear one more member proudly saying that they don’t “do” Facebook, there may well be murder done.

    1. Brilliant response Jenny – and glad that the blog has been of some help and thanks for being a regular reader (and hopefully subscriber too). Some of the points you make about the Club in Amsterdam are very interesting and it seems clear there is far less ‘throwback’ protocols in other Clubs around the world than there seems to be in GB&I Clubs. As outlined in the body text of the blog – I wonder if this is a reflection on those who would have been involved in Rotary as well as in other membership organisations in years gone by…seems the most likely and feasible reasoning.

      Thanks again for your comments and keep reading and sharing the posts.

  6. Josh Hall says:

    I just want to thank you for capturing very eloquently some of the questions and tensions that I’ve been trying to get a handle on for the past few months. Here in the States, I am involved in the creation of one of the newer style clubs (referred to as Happy Hour) and it’s been a challenge in which traditions to implement, how to implement, and then even wrapping our head around the sheer bureaucracy of the structure.

    1. Thanks Josh – it’s interesting that you use the words ‘sheer bureaucracy’ – as that is how many people I’ve spoken to envisage the overall processes and procedures of Rotary. Why do we do it like this…well we always have, that’s why? Or even worse, in order to change things there are so many hoops to jump thought and the ridiculous situation that if you want to make substantive change to the organisation it can only be done once every THREE YEARS! Good luck with setting up your new Club – it would be great to hear how you get on.

  7. Having been in Rotary for 12 months and being a 30 something, I have found my district/club members to be very supportive and helpful. I am already in 2 district committees (MPRC & DISCON16). It is more of the case that if you have the skills, put your hand up and help. I am not in these District committees for “the status” far from it. I am there because I can build websites for conferences, design artwork for events, manage social media campaigns and anything else thats technical. I am very much against being in any sort of group/committee where its all talk and no action. Being proactive and “serving” is what gets me fired up. Seeing the end product/results of a team effort is priceless.

    With regards the notation, “we’ve always done it like that” mentality. I personally have not found this so much. Those around me appear to listen and take on new ideas – example.. needed to find out if rotarians in our district wanted the District Magazine in Print anymore or if the option for online only would be favourable with a view to saving money and helping reduce the carbon footprint. It was suggested, rather than sending an email for no one to respond to we created a google form/survey to collect all the data. Low and behold we had a very good response. Little suggestions, encouragement to those adverse to change help slowly evolve and improve how “things are done”.

    That’s my 2 pence worth. As always Martin, this is a great place to discuss all things Rotary. Its refreshing that such questions can be discussed.

    1. Thanks for linking in Kristoff – good to hear about your engagement at District and I am pleased that you seem to be working with your fellow District Officers in terms of driving change and development in your areas of expertise. Interestingly I am not opposed to your position on anything you have said – the point I have raised in the blog is the number of Regular Rots how are similar to yourself.

      For example – what percentage of members in your Club are District Officers; RotaryGBI Officers or Rotary International Officers? How many of them actually care – but almost more importantly how many of them would strive to take up one of those offices? I would say, very few.

      The organisation needs people willing to give their skills and their expertise, like you have but we need to make sure that those individuals don’t come across those who say they want change – but ultimately don’t.

  8. Paul Jackson says:

    The link between the club and District has always been weak. One suggestion I made sometime ago was that there should be one member from each club with a position in the District Team not many from few clubs. Yes create 60+ roles and build a centre of excellence in the Districts rather than via an out of touch RIBI full of “career” Rotarians jostling for position and “power ” ………. whatever that is?!

    1. What a really interesting model to consider Paul.

      I love the idea of a Centre of Excellence in Rotary.

      It’s almost along the lines of a similar set-up I’ve discussed and suggested before for the selection of a President – that being, why not set up say, half a dozen regions across GB & I and then rotate the national Presidency around them. Thus creating a fairness in terms of regionality – as well as a certain group of District knowing that they had to gear themselves up in two years to elect a National President.

  9. A nice article and very relevant questions to be asked. Bear in mind some of your readership is outside of the British Isles and remain constantly baffled at your kooky “RIBI” setup that doesn’t exist in the rest of the world, so I guess that will account in some of the disinterest in RIBI Presidential Campaigns.

    The only point I would make, as someone in a district leadership role, is that some Rotarians who serve at district and higher level are actually trying to be helpful and bring about meaningful change in the organisation, we’re not all about power and prestige.

    I wrote a blog you and your readers may find interesting called “Ham & Pineapple Rotary”, which is a commentary on how most Rotarians are not interested in all of the “extras”.

    PS, the “Easier to give birth than raise the dead” quote is from Australian Rotarian, Author and Professional Speaker Michael McQueen, who has on a number of occasions addressed District Governors Elect at the International Assembly. I’m a big fan of his work and recently met him at a local district conference.

    1. Thanks Mark – appreciate your comments particularly as a fellow blogger.

      I take on board your comments about RIBI – but just to clarify the disinterest was from within these islands. Huge readership on the blogs – but little engagement in terms of the actual processes at Club level. And as a previous commentator said – a very low voting turn out.

      I think you’re right that most people on District are doing it as a way of ‘giving back’ to the organisation. However, the point remains that the vast majority of Regular Rots don’t have a particular penchant to take up a role beyond their own Club – that is even if they want a role in their Club beyond being a Regular…

      As a footnote – it may be worth pointing out the that a bit of research has shown the “easier to give birth” comment has been used in various derivatives by numerous business speakers around the world. Therefore I’m not sure who the originator actually was.

  10. David Simpson says:

    A very thought provoking blog and many thanks for a very accurate identification of our current position.
    On July 1 I take up the role of DGN 1080. Why, is I am sure the question, well because I sincerely believe change is overdue to ensure Rotary and the clubs go forward beyond 2020. However change and development is unlikely unless it is generated from within which requires interested Rots to partake in both District and RIBI.
    I look to encourage my District to promote a Rotary image driven by Clubs looking to the future in serving their community and in operating in ways indicative of a more inclusive society. RIBI and Districts need to have in place teams and procedures to support and help Clubs achieve their objectives.
    It may be true that some Rotarians are attracted to high office and desire to stay there for questionable reasons. However the lack of interest show by many to take on roles throughout the organization allows people to stay on the roundabout beyond the ideal period. Change can only be achieved when enough people take up the responsibility and work for this to happen.

    1. Great points David – especially the one about Regular Rots not being willing and ready to step up to the plate thus allowing those wishing to remain on the ‘gravy train’ to stay there indefinitely. However, experience shows (which as someone committed to change management – you may very well witness) that there is a deck of cards which is seems (although admittedly may just be a perception) to be shuffled every year on 1st July.

      As previously stated, it is correct that it would be folly to throw the baby out with the bathwater – but there needs to be a positive amount of new/fresh ideas brought into the established position – with a willingness to work together for the future of the organisation – and NOT the individuals.

  11. David Hatcher says:

    This is getting frustrating – yet again I read from David Simpson’s comments a paternalistic style in the ‘to support and help Clubs achieve their objectives’ element to the District role as he sees it. My experience of the many Clubs I visit delivering talks about the work of our only international project partner (ShelterBox), is that they value their independence and the success they achieve locally. What I believe we need at District, RIBI and Internationally is the leadership of those tiers of the organisation to do better in initiating and promoting Rotary style activities at those levels, so adding real value, not merely ‘supporting clubs’.
    Rotary leadership at these levels could primarily be exercising and demonstrating leadership in the geographical area of their responsibility, in this way becoming an inspiration to Clubs and enabling them to get on with their local initiatives. Once this becomes the norm then perhaps more local Rotarians will see a value to becoming more involved in the wider geographical application of the Rotary ideal to ‘serve above self’ at a higher level. From my bottom up view and conversations with Rotarians around the South-East of the UK, many of us see as unattractive, the bureaucracy and administrative controlling element of Districts and RIBI.

  12. Mark Stewart-Clarke says:

    Excellent blog as usual and some interesting replies. The thirds rule (a third do a third don’t and a third talk about it) ensures that many members do not do much outside of their Club and in some case little outside the table they sit at every week. Having said that the necessary changes will never happen if some do not seek higher office to bring change from within. Some of us are heading for Bournemouth Conference and another business session and the opportunity to vote in favour of the removal of the Selection Advisory Committee put forward by Skipton Club and the adoption of changes to committee being put forward by General Council. While we may not agree with many of the traditions of the RIBI it is by dogged persistence of those with interest that our Association will move forward.
    See you all in Bournemouth?

  13. Dennis Wong says:

    Here is a view from across the pond. Thank you for having this conversation.

    Rotarians do care as they want their talents, time and treasury to be directed for the most good.

    This is to suggest that the way Rotary is organized and operates, we Rotarians can have many successes and one major disappointment.

    Rotarians have the freedom to choose where and how they want to use their talents, time and treasury to save and change lives. Rotarians can follow their passion, pull together the needed resources and act at the club level without permission from other levels in the Rotary organization. This way of operating can be very satisfying, effective and efficient. Our Westport Sunrise Rotary (CT, USA) club motto is … Do Good. Feel Good. Have Fun.

    The disappointment is the lost opportunity to use our total size (two million members of Rotary, Rotaract and Interact) to have a major impact in relevant universal areas that matter most to most people, such as ending violence, corruption and inequality. Thus many Rotarians are not part of a bigger and grander global idea and movement that is aligned with our Rotary mission for understand, fellowship and peace in our local and global communities.

    Yes, eradicating polio is a noble cause. To some, Rotary has become a single issue NGO, with a cause (polio) that is not of a high priority today to most Rotarians and non-Rotarians. For the Gates Foundation, polio is just one of many programs.

    My conclusion … Change at the HQ, Zone and District levels will result and follow from the efforts and successes by clubs (and possibly by Rotarian Action Groups – for another discussion). So it may be best for Rotarians and clubs to lead by example and be the model for what Rotary International and The Rotary Foundation can be in its second century.

    To all, thank you for your caring and sharing, and for your service for a better world that is fair and beneficial for all concerned, and for the opportunity to share my views.

    Let’s make doing good, a daily Rotary habit.

  14. says:

    BLOGs and discussions such as this are opening the dialog to all Rotarians, which is great. Retention Central has a worldwide readership, and I receive discussion and comment from all over the Rotary network. From an organizational perspective, several important issues are coming up at the next COL. Retention Central has addressed three:

  15. Andrea Coble says:

    I considered myself a regular Rot here in the USA, near the heart of my nation’s capital. It was a labor of love and my new provisional Rotary club in 2008 focused mainly on community health awareness with an emphasis on the obesity epidemic. The first 5 years were glorious. We pulled the business community together and all lost about 12-40lbs. Each pound was matched with 100% charitable dollars and all expenses to run the event was donated by the community itself. Not a penny came from Grants or with the help from RI. Everyone won. Especially the children in the community who participated in life changing activities and lessons. Some were even given college scholarships.
    I thought I was a regular Rot but all that changed in 2011 when just 3 years in, I was asked to be Assistant Governor. It was a grave mistake to accept because it exposed me to the workings of RI in Evanston and all the wasteful spending on legal messes they created.
    I thought I was a regular Rot until I could not stomach the things RI wanted me to think, say and do. And they were confident enough to actually put my orders in writing.
    I challenged these orders even 5 years after I left Rotary. And I even got to go behind the curtain in 2015 to see the wizard. Read the RI Online Article, “Ignore Women at Your Peril”…..be sure to read the comments.

    Now the COL has voted that there is no distinction between an e-club and a regular Rotary club. Yes we really care…and I’m not even a Rotarian. By the way, the new club chartered in 2009 only has 1 original charter member remaining and membership is way diwn. The big bellies returned, Good PR and community events halted, and now everyone seems to be in an e-club like all the other new generation of “Regular Rots.” We are up 8500 new members but Ravi never mentions all who have left. Still, the Boyscouts of America have more members than Rotary worldwide. Yes I care.

  16. Andrea Coble says:

    We care. Thank you for helping me work through the trauma. Read RI Online article, “Ignore Women at Your Peril.” Another fine example of RI asking that we remove the splinter from our eye when they have a log in both eyes. Now the COL voted in Evanston that there is no distinction between an eclub and a regular Rotary Club that actually meets with each other on a regular basis. Meet the new “Regular Rot”.

  17. Andreacoble@gmail.com says:

    Was it something that I said? Lol
    Please know how much I love your blog and would like to comment that at least one person in the USA actually cares. Speaking for myself. RI has helped understand that there us no distinction between a regular club and an eclub. They don’t want to discriminate against anyone. And yet today 1/5 of all Rotary Clubs still exclude women. See RI Online Article, “Ignore Women at Your Peril.” The comments are great.

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